[Firmwares Z8]

[__susanu__]

ESPOO_build_2361 (http://www.4shared.com/file/47820779/b5565bea/Z8_espoo_build_2361_rus.html)

ESPOO_build_2283C4 (http://www.4shared.com/file/47823074/dc1d9e3c/2283c4_a_RDRO_Germany_18Sep07_10_12_2283c4_a_18920 071743sbf.html)

ESPOO_U_46.04.11G (http://www.4shared.com/file/47827172/bbdec669/ESPOO_U_460411G.html)

ESPOO_U_46.05.40I (http://www.4shared.com/file/47828702/a8713c4a/ESPOO_U_460540I.html)

ESPOO_U_46.04.84G (http://www.4shared.com/file/47860940/18b93b47/ESPOO_U_460484G.html)

ESPOO_build_2388 (http://www.4shared.com/file/50337379/71222cec/2388c8_bu_2283c4_au_2283c3_du_Default_ESPOO_build_ _10_11_2388c8_31320081544.html?dirPwdVerified=ead6 5847)

flash using RSD-LITE 4.1

happy modding

[RaMiRa]

Awesome Susanu !! :)

[russoeternal]

Oh god! Good job Susanu!

[dankif]

tight!

[Intred]

Could anyone tell me which firmware support what languages, i've flashed to ferrari one but i really miss the text support for my native language (dutch).

[dankif]

good point, not sure how to differentiate each

[kakashiyp]

My phone is coming in soon, and I want to flash it ASAP. So if someone could tell me the "latest" version that would be great.

Thanks

[patrixl]

Is the most recent one in that list the Ferrari-branded version, or the unbranded?

ESPOO_U_46.04.64G_2312c5_xu_RDRO_Germany_15Nov07_1 .0_1.1_2312c5_z_23112007811

Is the one (unbranded, same ver as Ferrari) I was talking about, susanu, in the other thread, not sure if you've already uploaded it or not.

Patrix

[Akademist101]

which 1 is the latest firmware out dat u have?..sorry im new to dis and want to make sure i do it right..

my firmware is ESPOO_U_46.03.1AG_0000024B

[kakashiyp]

Can someone tell me what the latest version is please? I'm really trying to update mine.

Thanks!!! American version

[hpbaxter]

the Ferrari firmware is beter that i have in my phone or not?
normaly Ferrari is latest but.... its change something ??

:p Merci

[patrixl]

I thought 46.04.84G (build 2312) was the latest, but in the related files on rapidshare I see some more recent versions, but I'm not sure if they're real or not. Seems russian, some of them anyway.. These files really need to be better described lol...

I have the file I described above, unbranded 46.04.84G build 2312, thought it was the most recent. It's the same as Ferrari, but unbranded. Works well enough for me, but if some bugs are fixed in ulterior versions, it'd be nice to know...

Patrix

[Darknova]

Ok guys, bit of knowledge incase you didn't already know.

For the Z8 (and I'm assuming Z10) we need to step away from looking at the usual 46.04.84G bit, it's the Motobuild that tells us whether or not it's the latest firmware.

IIRC, the latest Z8 build was 2312. So any firmware with 2312 as the motobuild is the latest. the other differences are mainly down to what languages they have, and what operator they come from. As far as I'm aware, there is no seperate language pack like the rest of Moto's phones.

[Akademist101]

thanks for the firmwares..goin to try updating it now..wish me luck!

[tmulhearn]

guys if we are looking at the motobuild to determine the latest firmware then isn't the first file ESPOO_build_2361 the latest? 2361 > 2312 right? This is definitely confusing

[Darknova]

guys if we are looking at the motobuild to determine the latest firmware then isn't the first file ESPOO_build_2361 the latest? 2361 > 2312 right? This is definitely confusing

Yep, that would make sense.

[patrixl]

Never heard of 2361 though, seems Russian from a few files I've seen on rapidshare but I still don't know. Last I heard, 2312 was the latest, but that was back in February.

Patrix

[Darknova]

Never heard of 2361 though, seems Russian from a few files I've seen on rapidshare but I still don't know. Last I heard, 2312 was the latest, but that was back in February.

Patrix

Same here, but if I remember correctly, Russia and Germany generally get the latest firmware before the rest of the world. So it's entirely possible that 2361 is the latest.

[tmulhearn]

i'll give it a shot now and see

[patrixl]

Patiently waiting for reports from you, tmulhearn :)

Patrix

[tmulhearn]

ok guys you tell me

what i had previously was the unbranded Ferrari firmware:

s/w:espoo_u_46.04.64g_00000680

espoo_uiq_31_200648_231c5_z_20071109

motobuild: 2312c5_z

what i have now:

s/w:espoo_u_46.04.b6p

espoo_uiq_31_200648_2361_20071218

motobuild:2361

is it newer or older ? something different is that i got a dbug icon

[ATLSNiP3R]

Alright, which is the LATEST firmware for the Z8? I really can't differentiate between these firmwares.

[tmulhearn]

:scratch: trying to work that out as well :scratch:

[dankif]

moto build: 2267C3

looks like i need update

[hpbaxter]

http://video.aol.com/video-detail/motorola-z8-firmware-update-fota-demo/655038142
I found this... so.. what a hell is this profile????
some one can tell me where to Sing in to be able to download the Firmwars..?

[dankif]

http://video.aol.com/video-detail/motorola-z8-firmware-update-fota-demo/655038142
I found this... so.. what a hell is this profile????
some one can tell me where to Sing in to be able to download the Firmwars..?


thats the FOTA [firmware over the air] update. Internet must be working, but i got to the DL part and it just lagged-unsuccessfull. the youtube vid looks like it only takes a minute or so but it took over 3 minutes with no data transfered. i used up all my internet doing it so make sure you have sufficient internet account status to try.

just go control panel>device>device management>connect as per the vid.

[tmulhearn]

the problem with some firmwares is they come without any default settings in device management so the question is does any one have these settings? and if they do has motorola actually put these firmwares up for us to download? people seem to have a couple of firmwares, so they must be getting them somewhere.

[patrixl]

All the numbers you quoted below are higher after your update than before, also take a close look at the Motobuild. It's higher, therefore, more recent. Look at the espoo_uiq line also, the last set of digits is the date the firmware was built. nov 9th, 2007 VS dec 18, 2008 for your update.

Motobuild is made of 4 digits + a few characters that represent localization/branding/etc (why Ferrari and the unbranded one both have 2312 but different characters afterwards). Not sure how to decode all these characters or the espoo build itself, but those should be enough to figure out that you do indeed have a newer build.

Questions of interest: which languages are available on your new build? Which iTap languages are there? I miss French iTap on my 2312 firmware...

Have you noticed any fixed issues, or new issues? Same fonts as before? Details please :)

Patrix

ok guys you tell me

what i had previously was the unbranded Ferrari firmware:

s/w:espoo_u_46.04.64g_00000680

espoo_uiq_31_200648_231c5_z_20071109

motobuild: 2312c5_z

what i have now:

s/w:espoo_u_46.04.b6p

espoo_uiq_31_200648_2361_20071218

motobuild:2361

is it newer or older ? something different is that i got a dbug icon

[tmulhearn]

well I'm glad to know I've indeed go a newer version. it would certainly suck to have down graded the firmware :). Ok to answer your questions:

1. languages available : UK English,pyccknn( I'm assuming Russian here)
2. i tap languages:a lot; yes theres French also dutch,Spanish,Italian etc..
2. differences: fonts seems to be different, and icons seem to be smaller. i cant say the font is better than the non branded Ferrari version. its like all the fonts in the Ferrari that were bold are now not bold with this version, but all the fonts that were normal are now bold, or so it seems(If any one can help me make some fonts, id greatly appreciate it).

Other than that i really haven't noticed any real difference. i think the the menu speeds maybe a little quicker, but it may be more me wanting them to be quicker just cause its an upgrade, rather than them actually being quicker.


http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/412/080531224235qq2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


theres a new DEBUG option in the main menu, under it i have
EFEM : its locked
eshell : some sort of DOS like interface
MotorolaKeyTest: want to see your phone go crazy on you like its possessed, run this!!
QFileMan: view of folders (like swiss manager pro)
QikCore TEst: no idea
System Profiler: no idea
UiConfig Test: no idea

^^ no idea what any of these do....

if you guys want me to try/test anything in particular let me know.i installed it this afternoon, and spent a few hours setting it back up again, so far i cant see anything that would make me TELL YOU TO GET IT CAUSE ITS THE BEST FIRMWARE EVER... if i do notice anything worth while i will def mention it.

[patrixl]

Interesting, thanks for the info.

Question: when you boot the phone, do you see, at some point, a message in the upper right corner saying "D_EXC started"?


Seems you're not the only one trying it ;)

http://www.motosmartphones.com/support-forums/topic,61.msg733/boardseen,1/#new


More comments follow:


1. languages available : UK English,pyccknn( I'm assuming Russian here)


That would be Русский - indeed, Russian ;)

I've heard, about another firmware (I can't remember the version), that some messages are still in Russian even if the selected language is English. If you come accross that, can you point it out? For the unbranded 2312, I came accross that issue once, where a message was written in Deutsch instead of English. I think it's when an MMS failed to send.


2. i tap languages:a lot; yes theres French also dutch,Spanish,Italian etc..


Excellent.


3. differences: fonts seems to be different, and icons seem to be smaller. i cant say the font is better than the non branded Ferrari version. its like all the fonts in the Ferrari that were bold are now not bold with this version, but all the fonts that were normal are now bold, or so it seems(If any one can help me make some fonts, id greatly appreciate it).

Other than that i really haven't noticed any real difference. i think the the menu speeds maybe a little quicker, but it may be more me wanting them to be quicker just cause its an upgrade, rather than them actually being quicker.


Good to know, your report and Neil's on motosmartphone are really encouraging.



theres a new DEBUG option in the main menu, under it i have
EFEM : its locked
eshell : some sort of DOS like interface
MotorolaKeyTest: want to see your phone go crazy on you like its possessed, run this!!
QFileMan: view of folders (like swiss manager pro)
QikCore TEst: no idea
System Profiler: no idea
UiConfig Test: no idea

^^ no idea what any of these do....

if you guys want me to try/test anything in particular let me know.i installed it this afternoon, and spent a few hours setting it back up again, so far i cant see anything that would make me TELL YOU TO GET IT CAUSE IT THE BEST FIRMWARE EVER... if i do notice anything worth while i will def mention it.

Do you use email (in Messaging) on your phone? With 2312, it seems I can barely use it, as it never manages to connect (but Web Browser is fine, haven't had the change to test anything else. Roaming around Europe, same thing, so I'm assuming it was my phone and not my operator, but who knows).

Thanks for testing!

Patrix

[tmulhearn]

1 . booting up is normal , no "D_EXC started"
2. so far English to English sends/receives ok, but if i get something weird i'll post.
3. yup i use inbuilt email for gmail, works fine. very fast with this version and the non branded ferrari version.

[patrixl]

1 . booting up is normal , no "D_EXC started"
2. so far English to English sends/receives ok, but if i get something weird i'll post.
3. yup i use inbuilt email for gmail, works fine. very fast with this version and the non branded ferrari version.

Could be O2 then.

D_EXC -> I had that message back when I was beta-testing 2283 for Motorola, so I was wondering if 2361, with that debug menu, was also a beta build and not an actual release. Probably an actual release for Russia then.

D_EXC was annoying as it left a million log files all over my memory card and phone's memory. Sent a few to Moto though, so I guess they used them to fix some crashes and issues. Like SMP crashing when loading the camera (doesn't happen with 2312).

Keep us posted, so far looks good, I'll surely upgrade too, and lose a stupid game I bought from O2 lol. Oh well. It crashes all the time now anyway.

Patrix

[tmulhearn]

hahaha, i hear you. well now that you have mentioned it, i shall do some sniffing around in my memory card/phone memory and see if i got anything unsual. Moto should thank you if you sent in lots of log files, this phone is only now starting to act like is should have at the beginning of its release. Still a bit to go though.

so far cant complain, if your happy with the unbranded Ferrari/ or branded Ferrari version, id say wait a bit, lets see if anything noticeable happens in the next few days. if i find anything good or bad with my daily usage, i will mention ...

[patrixl]

hahaha, i hear you. well now that you have mentioned it, i shall do some sniffing around in my memory card/phone memory and see if i got anything unsual. Moto should thank you if you sent in lots of log files, this phone is only now starting to act like is should have at the beginning of its release. Still a bit to go though.

I wish they'd thank me with a shiny new Z10 lol.



so far cant complain, if your happy with the unbranded Ferrari/ or branded Ferrari version, id say wait a bit, lets see if anything noticeable happens in the next few days. if i find anything good or bad with my daily usage, i will mention ...

Yeah, why I'm asking questions and holding off :) Only thing bothering me currently is the email, and I can use my laptop for that anyway lol

Thanks for all the comments :)

Patrix

[tmulhearn]

1. if they do reward you, make it 2 z10's, i want one too.
2. what is your email carrier?GMAIL works 100%

[ATLSNiP3R]

Alright, I'm going to ask nicely, once again. Is there anyway someone can tell me the latest firmware from the list of firmwares in the first post. Please, don't tell me how to decode it or what the numbers mean, just let me know WHICH ONE IS THE LATEST FIRMWARE! - Nic.

[tmulhearn]

Ok I'll answer nicely, the very first one in the first post ESPOO_build_2361. That seems to be one of the newest..

[ATLSNiP3R]

Thank you, that's all I wanted to know.

Wait.., it says Russian.., will my phone now be in Russian language?

[tmulhearn]

it has Russian and UK english

[hpbaxter]

thats the FOTA [firmware over the air] update. Internet must be working, but i got to the DL part and it just lagged-unsuccessfull. the youtube vid looks like it only takes a minute or so but it took over 3 minutes with no data transfered. i used up all my internet doing it so make sure you have sufficient internet account status to try.

just go control panel>device>device management>connect as per the vid.

Yeah... but. you need to log in, & on my gsm, i don't have a login & no paswword ( no profile) where can i get the profile to be able to connect...?

[ATLSNiP3R]

Yeah... but. you need to log in, & on my gsm, i don't have a login & no paswword ( no profile) where can i get the profile to be able to connect...?

Look at the threads posted in Rizr Z8 and Moto Z10. I posted the internet settings for AT&T.

[tmulhearn]

quick update on ESPOO_build_2361, today my z8 has been restarting itself quite a lot. pity, was starting to like this firmware. will use it for w few more days and see what happens

going back to the Ferrari unbranded firmware. the phone keeps on restarting and switching off, initially i thought it might have been because i was messing around with the DEBUG options. but on reinstalling the firmware again and keeping away from the DEBUG folder its still doing it.

hope someone else has better luck than i did.

[patrixl]

That's too bad, tmulhearn :( Sounds like otherwise the firmware was great.

Patrix

[bubattolo]

Hi Patrix! It's me, Neil.
Yes the 2361 firmware is working fine. Nothing so special, but the phone seems faster in every task.

[tmulhearn]

interesting..

[bubattolo]

hope someone else has better luck than i did.

This is the 3rd day with this firmware and it never rebooted or crashed.
Had a Program Closed on the BT setting but was messing with the connection to PCsync and file transfer with my computer.
The media player is the same pain in the ass when receiving more than 2 files via BT (from another phone), i mean the listen/save procedure, but has been always like this.

Another thing I noted is that the speaker SEEMS louder.
For me it's a keeper, but what is strange to me is that the newest build is still made in 2007.

[patrixl]

Maybe it took them a long time to test it and approve it ;) Maybe they stopped making anything this year to focus on the Z10... yow.. Maybe there's some newer builds coming our way... We can only hope!

Thanks for posting here, Neil, wasn't expecting that lol

Patrix

[tmulhearn]

maybe i had a one off issue with my phone then , this makes me really tempted to try again, but i just finished setting my phone :(

[bubattolo]

Yes the most annoying thing is to reinstall the programs and setting the internet/mms connections after every flash :-)
To today not a problem to report, and it hasn't been rebooted in 2 days and 17h

[patrixl]

I might still try it. I'll wait a bit more, though ;)

Patrix

[wastedagen]

Ok I'll answer nicely, the very first one in the first post ESPOO_build_2361. That seems to be one of the newest..

Hi, I was just wondering if this is the lastest firmware, and i'm not disagreeing with you, how come the creation date for this is 12/29/2006 16:06:00 - according to RDSLite_4.1, where as the creation date for the 4th one on the list ESPOO_U_46.05.40I is 03/10/2008 15:29:20.

Wouldn't this seem to be the lastest. I honestly don't know what all the codes and letters mean, I just know how to flash a phone using RSDLite given the lastest firmware to use.

Please if i'm reading into this all wrong feel free to sort me out..............Gently.

[bubattolo]

Hi, I was just wondering if this is the lastest firmware, and i'm not disagreeing with you, how come the creation date for this is 12/29/2006 16:06:00 - according to RDSLite_4.1, where as the creation date for the 4th one on the list ESPOO_U_46.05.40I is 03/10/2008 15:29:20.

Wouldn't this seem to be the lastest. I honestly don't know what all the codes and letters mean, I just know how to flash a phone using RSDLite given the lastest firmware to use.

Please if i'm reading into this all wrong feel free to sort me out..............Gently.

I've seen that too, but it is out of doubt that the date of the file is incorrect. It is not possible, and it is easy to modify. What can't be changed is the date of the build, that is more recent then the other firmwares. If you look every part of the firmware is "higher" the espoo, the build date and the build number.

It's 4 days that it is running now continuosly and no problem, so tmulhearn maybe your issue was a program you intsalled?

[tmulhearn]

possibly, but i have the same programs installed on the Ferrari version now, and that hasn't crashed at all. And i dont have a lot installed, just autocam, bestcrypto, google maps, shozu, slick msn, worldmate and swiss manager pro.

Maybe this weekend i'll try it again :>.

[jman316]

ok so how do i check and update my firmware....i downloaded the ferrari version and the file is like 76mb!!

whats the current version of firmware?

[tmulhearn]

from the HOME SCREEN go into MAIN MENU and then select OPTIONS and then SYSTEM INFORMATION. that will tell you what you currently have.

[jman316]

if it helps...this is what i have

ESPO U_46.03.1AG_000024B
espo_uiq_31_200648_20070619
Motobuild: 2238CI_B
Flex UCSU0MIVFUKR 2S618_1G0
DSP vers 52040000
bpversion modem 4_U_40.0871.R

[kakashiyp]

2361 on my phone is atleast 5x faster then 2312.

Thanks!

[patrixl]

if it helps...this is what i have

Motobuild: 2238CI_B


Motobuild is your best bet to figure out how old/new your firmware is.

2238 is pretty old, 2361 is the newest that is known, so far.

Patrix

PS: I'm about to take the plunge and install 2361!

[jman316]

im using linux...namely ubuntu...so how do i go about starting?

where do i get the newer firmware from? or is ferrari version, the new one?

[__susanu__]

if you are using linux to modd your phone please post in the above forum (http://www.modmymoto.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=33)

[jman316]

well im using linux at the mo but i have access to a windows pc as welll....whichever one is easy...

so can someone please provide a link to this new firmware?

[__susanu__]

all the firmwares are right here (http://www.modmymoto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=170411)

2361 build is the latest firmware:)

good luck

[patrixl]

So far so good, 2361 is unbranded and has the same font as teh Ferrari (as opposed to the other firmwares which have a different font, which I prefer. I suppose I'll get used to this one, though). It's fast, it's true. Blazingly fast. WEll that's exaggeration of course, but I can feel the difference in responsiveness. Good. Hopefully I won't get any crash/reboot cycles like tmulhearn...

Patrix

[jman316]

you misunderstand me...i have access to both...linux at home...windows at work...!
im on a windows machine right now!!

so a link to the frimware please?

all the firmwares are right here (http://www.modmymoto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=170411)

2361 build is the latest firmware:)

good luck

sorry...that links to four other links...what to do?

[__susanu__]

build 2361 (http://www.4shared.com/file/47820779/b5565bea/Z8_espoo_build_2361_rus.html) is the latest firmware

[jman316]

everyone says nice things bout this firmware...what would be nicer would be if it was a bit more minimalistic...at 74mb it takes up a chunk of the z8's memory!!!
maybe something to keep in mind for the next build!?no disrespect thou obviously! :)

[patrixl]

jman: as susanu said, the latest firmware is 2361. So download that one from the list of firmwares on the link he provided, and use whichever tool you have in Linux for flashing, or RSD Lite (version 3.9 or greater) in Windows - along with the latest USB drivers.

Patrix

[__susanu__]

no ... after flashing this you will also have enough free space.... this will not take the memory from the user:)

for example a v3i firmware have 96Mb and the phone memory is 12MB, after flash the user remains with 10Mb.

[patrixl]

jman: your current firmware takes up a chunk too, and it will be replaced by the new one, so you won't see much of a difference in free space after the flashing. It's like installing a new Ubuntu over your previous one, it'll overwrite the files not add them :)

Patrix

[jman316]

thats exactly what i mean...maybe something along the lines of a leaner firmware should be considered...with just the bare essentials to make it work...and anything else could be a plugin of some sort....would be great for speed and space.

e.g not everyone might want an infared abitlity or a bluetooth ability...this would help in accompalishing that! prob a poor example.

I will flash my phone tomorrow ish..Are there any step by step tutorials available that could help me?

[patrixl]

I'm sure taking things out like bluetooth would be more trouble than is worth (Moto has more important things to do), and not save that much space, I'm sure the main system takes up the most anyway.

2361 is the leanest yet, cuz it has only 1 theme, no ferrari branding, no games, only the system and main apps (web, messaging, etc).

Right now I have 67MB free. That's plenty, pluys my 1GB SD card...

Patrix

[jman316]

so 67MB left over after flashing with this theme?
thats impressive!!!!!

[__susanu__]

yes 67 Mb remains free after flash this....

that enough for me....since i have also a 4gb TF:D

[jman316]

i will be getting a 4bg soon! :)

so any step by step tutorial on flashing...sorry im a bit thick on the flashing front?lol

[patrixl]

1- install drivers if needed
1.1 - make backups of your data etc
2- install RSD Lite (3.9 or latest)
3- connect phone, in modem mode
4- if RSD Lite recognizes the phone, select the file, and click start!

wait. :) Make sure the battery is charged beforehand. Enjoy the new firmware!

If there's any trouble, I dunno what to do. Never ahd any. Look around in this forum, some people have had trouble

Patrix

[__susanu__]

here (http://modmymoto.com/wiki/index.php/Razr_V3i_Flashing-Flexing_with_RSD) is the guide how to flash a phone using rsd lite;)

very simple:)

good luck

[jman316]

Also if anyone can suggest any other "improvements" after ive flashed, please. contribute!

when you say backups of data? what data? stuff on memory card? names on sims, pictures? and more importantly.................how?

thank u susanu! :)

[patrixl]

Moto PC Sync has a backup feature, you can backup all your contacts, vids, images, sound, etc...

Patrix

[jman316]

cool!

i will try that tomorrow :)

thank you all for your help

[dankif]

ESPOO_U_46.03.E2G_00000581 espoo_uiq_31_200648_2267C3_J_20070915

would upgrading to 2361 make my firmware newer?
can i back up my stock firmware?

[patrixl]

ESPOO_U_46.03.E2G_00000581 espoo_uiq_31_200648_2267C3_J_20070915

would upgrading to 2361 make my firmware newer?
can i back up my stock firmware?

Your motobiuld is 2267, which dates from sept 15, 2007. That's "ancient" ;)

As far as I know, there's no way to backup the firmware on your phone. From personal experience, there's no need, since the newer ones are so much better. I've run 2312 and am now running 2361, no issues whatsoever so far with 2361, though it hasn't been 24 hours yet.

Patrix

Well, according to someone on motosmartphones, firmware 2388 exists. Maybe only inside Motorola for now, but he just got his phone back from repairs at Motorola and it came back with the 2388 build. Hopefully it'll be out in the wild soon...

Patrix

[wastedagen]

I have a firmware that I found on my travels with the numbers 2388 in it.

I dont know where i got it from but I am uploading it to rapidshare and 4Shared as I type this.

Bear with me.

O.K. here is the link for Rapidshare:
http://rapidshare.com/files/120494354/2388c8_bu_2283c4_au_2283c3_du_Default_ESPOO_build_ _1.0_1.1_2388c8_31320081544.rar

4shared:
http://www.4shared.com/file/50337379/71222cec/2388c8_bu_2283c4_au_2283c3_du_Default_ESPOO_build_ _10_11_2388c8_31320081544.html?dirPwdVerified=ead6 5847

Hope this works for you...................

[bubattolo]

I have a firmware that I found on my travels with the numbers 2388 in it.

I dont know where i got it from but I am uploading it to rapidshare as I type this.

Bear with me.

Veeery interesting :-)
Could you give some other info on the build? (espoo...the date etc)
I hate rapidshare. It's always a problem from my Fastweb connection to download something from there :-(

Waiting :-)

http://www.motosmartphones.com/support-forums/topic,61.30/

Here is the file.
DOwnloading now, will try this evening.
Lucky me i finish early work today :-)

[__susanu__]

@wastedagen do you use this firmware right now?

this seems to be the latest:)

can u upload it please in other place like 4shared, because i can't download from rapidshare or megaupload:(

[wastedagen]

@wastedagen do you use this firmware right now?

this seems to be the latest:)

can u upload it please in other place like 4shared, because i can't download from rapidshare or megaupload:(

Ok bare with me as ive never used 4shared before. ill try and figure it.
Uploading now.

Ok done.

I have put it under the Rapidshare link. Might as well keep them together.

Hope this works out for you Z8' ers, I'm still waiting for my z10 firmware:hissyfit:

[__susanu__]

k... thanks for share ....

i have added this to first post;)

to all users get it very easy and fast:)

[patrixl]

Downlaoding, thanks for the links! Seems it was built on March 19th, as opposed to 2361 which dates from December.. I'm excited :D :D

Patrix

[__susanu__]

i think i will also flash this ...

waiting for patrix to share with us the results:)

a little review about this firmware:D

[patrixl]

So it's my turn to be the guinea pig eh? I'm plunging in in 2 minutes ;)

First report, phone has flashed and has rebooted. I'm faced with teh familiar list of languages:

UK english
French
Deutsch
Spanish
Italian
Russian
Magyar
and Greek

Excellent. As usual, the first bootup is slow and navigating lags a bit. Mobiclip is back, and those little debug apps from 2361 are gone. Font is also the good ol' font from previous non-Ferrari non-2361 firmwares. Ok lag is gone, didn't need to reboot. Maybe I just wasn't patient enough in the past. All languages are present for iTap too, so I can text my mom in French awww :) Asphalt2 is back lol.

Everything looks familiar, I don't see any other changes so far, but the speed is there just like in 2361.

Time to restore my backup. I'll report more later if I experience any difficulty or if it's just as great as it seems now.

Patrix

[tmulhearn]

2388? i got to try this

thanks wastedagen

[dankif]

Your motobiuld is 2267, which dates from sept 15, 2007. That's "ancient" ;)

As far as I know, there's no way to backup the firmware on your phone. From personal experience, there's no need, since the newer ones are so much better. I've run 2312 and am now running 2361, no issues whatsoever so far with 2361, though it hasn't been 24 hours yet.

Patrix

Well, according to someone on motosmartphones, firmware 2388 exists. Maybe only inside Motorola for now, but he just got his phone back from repairs at Motorola and it came back with the 2388 build. Hopefully it'll be out in the wild soon...

Patrix


looks like i shouls flash then. problem is, i think i have a warranty exchange as my slider keylights are flickering/going out.
we'll see

[bubattolo]

Flashing right now.
Nice to have again italian, but i really liked more the alternative font.

[patrixl]

A few hours later, and so far so good. Everything working fine and smooth :)

Patrix

looks like i shouls flash then. problem is, i think i have a warranty exchange as my slider keylights are flickering/going out.
we'll see


Better get your exchange first, then, as flashing surely voids your warranty...


bubattolo: I'm really not sure about the font anymore. Is it the original ,is it hte Ferrari/russian one? I can't tell anymore LOL. This is weird. Either way, it's readable...

Patrix

[tmulhearn]

just finished flashing and setting up, its not the ferrari font thats for sure and its not the 2361 font either. i forgot what the original font looked liked :>

[bubattolo]

Installed OK.
I'm trying to reinstall all the programs I use but can't install DIVX player...says something about a security check (translated)...

...downloaded the 0.90 version and works fine.

[discomatt]

Oops... apparently I messed something up good.

I attempted to flash to the latest firmware ( 2388c8 ) from the link provided in this thread... This is coming from ESPOO_U_46.04.84G

Using RSD Lite 4.2, It seemed the process made it pretty far ( a few steps in, to the point where I'm sure the actual firmware was updating... the progress % was going fairly slow )

The flash failed at some point... I don't have the actual error message, but I restarted the phone and it had successfully reverted back to the old firmware.

I figured I'd give it another shot.. so I tried again... this time, however, the phone refused to go into Flash Mode... instead the screen turned purple and the phone hung. I tried to use the 2361 firmware, and that one caused a black screen instead - no bootloader

I tried restarting the phone in boot loader mode (power+*+#) but It refused to enter... the phone started up as normal (before the first flash attempted it entered fine)

Am I screwed? Is there a way to update/fix the bootloader?

Thanks :)

Here's the stats from RSD
IMEI: xxxxxxx
Technology: Dual Mode UMTS
Software Version: MODEM4_U_40.09.65R
Flex Version: UCSUOMIMotoBKR2S618_IG0
Bootloader Version: 03c0
DRM Version: N / A

[ Update ]

I tried removing the battery for an hour or so and attempted again... this time I'm getting a cyan screen. At least moto chose bright colors for their screens of death :)

[tmulhearn]

switch off remove battery. try holding 1 + 3 while putting the battery back in. see if that gets it in too flash mode. if it does flash 2388c8 again

[__susanu__]

@discomatt try this:

>> run rsd lite and go to config >> options >> and select "TIROM SetCFG"
>> Choose the file espoo_omap_gp_repair.sbf (http://www.4shared.com/file/50430523/68df4504/espoo_omap_gp_repair.html)
>> Connect the USB and turn the phone on the list of devices in "RSDLite" should appear Blank OMAP24xx. Select "Start" and wait about 30 seconds to complete the operation
>> close rsd lite and remove the battery and reinsert it ...
>> bootloader should appear now and ready to normal flash

good luck

[dankif]

switch off remove battery. try holding 1 + 3 while putting the battery back in. see if that gets it in too flash mode. if it does flash 2388c8 again


i think he means holding "*" "#" "power" and inserting the battery

[tmulhearn]

isnt "1" + "3" for the z8 and "*" + "#" for the other motos?. either way one should work

[patrixl]

One thing I noticed now that I'm on 2388, since I left the 2283 build behind, and haven't really paid attention to it until now, is the multiple MMS profiles thing.

If you go to control panel, messaging, MMS settings, there's only one "preset" available: Other. There doesn'T seem to be any way to create any more presets, as far as i can see. That means, if I do switch SIM card and I want MMS settings for both mobile operators, I have to reenter them manually each time I want to switch, or get them sent to me from the operator/moto website.

Maybe I'm missing something obvious. It's not that big of a deal, I really don't care about MMS that much, but I'm sure some people do..

Patrix

[bubattolo]

Patrix, about the mms I don't know, i configured TIM mms but I don't use mms so haven't seen anything strange.
The 2388 is working fine, I'm not having any problem, but i feel that 2361 was faster. Not that much, it isn't anything big but I can feel it.
Maybe since it was slimmer was a little bit faster

[patrixl]

Patrix, about the mms I don't know, i configured TIM mms but I don't use mms so haven't seen anything strange.
The 2388 is working fine, I'm not having any problem, but i feel that 2361 was faster. Not that much, it isn't anything big but I can feel it.
Maybe since it was slimmer was a little bit faster

Feels to be about the same speed to me.

MMS: nothing wrong with MMS, just that there's only one profile available, so I can't switch easily. Not a big issue of course, just something that could be annoying.

Patrix

[wastedagen]

deleted: written in error

[discomatt]

@discomatt try this:

>> run rsd lite and go to config >> options >> and select "TIROM SetCFG"
>> Choose the file espoo_omap_gp_repair.sbf (http://www.4shared.com/file/50430523/68df4504/espoo_omap_gp_repair.html)
>> Connect the USB and turn the phone on the list of devices in "RSDLite" should appear Blank OMAP24xx. Select "Start" and wait about 30 seconds to complete the operation
>> close rsd lite and remove the battery and reinsert it ...
>> bootloader should appear now and ready to normal flash

good luck

You freakin genius. Thank you

[patrixl]

Still no issues with 2388! Been how many days now.. 4? Something like that.

I figured out my problems with email (in Messages) or any app making use of GPRS being unable to connect, is a problem with O2. Gonna have to call them, as it worked with Virgin and Orange on the same phone..

IMO, if anybody still has doubts... Forget your doubts. 2388 is great. Beats 22xx by a looooong stretch. Beats 2312 (Ferrari) and even 2361 (more languages and default themes are there)

Patrix

[__susanu__]

well i will flash now the latest firmware...

till now i used Ferrari:)

thanks for try it patrix:)

[patrixl]

Good luck, susanu! Hope it works as well for you as it did for me :)

Patrix

[discomatt]

Another ++ for the new firmware. Been running it for ~5 hours now (very heavy usage.. just about killed the battery) and not a single hiccup.

[jagoanneon]

thanks susanu for this thread, its awesome

[patrixl]

2388: The Task List bug is fixed. On previous firmwares, when you pressed and held the home key until the task list appeared, the task list was really slow when you scrolled in the list. Now speed is normal.

"Phrase completion" is also speedy now, used to be it made using iTap unbearable when it was on.

Another bug was fixed, but I forget which one. Plenty more I'm sure.

Patrix

Aha! This is hte other bug:

Java apps password field: now displays correctly all on one line when inputting the password, used to be 2 characters per line was very disturbing (but minor bug) ;)

Patrix

[jagoanneon]

what a pity, when i put the most updated firm 2388,one of my services provider in my country didnt work, well i think i just get back to my old firm 2361

[jagg11]

I must be doing something wrong, I open up rsd lite select the file and hit start and it spouts a message than says finished nothing else happens. so not to sound stupid but can we get the extremely slow persons version of how to do this, for some reason my laptop won't recognize the file in my desktop with rsd lite open.

[patrixl]

No details = no help.

RSD Version? What did you do? What failed? Did you look at other helps threads? etc etc etc

Patrix

[jagg11]

yes running rsdlite 4.1, I don't know what details to give, lamen here, Is there a flash mode that I need to put the phone in before trying to flash it? all the downloads for firmware were gotten from this thread.

[patrixl]

You need to put your phone in Modem mode for flashing to work. Make sure RSD Lite recognizes teh phone (it should show up in the bottom half), and that the file is recognized too.

Patrix

[jagg11]

just so I know I'm doing it right how do you put the Z8 in modem mode?

[patrixl]

just so I know I'm doing it right how do you put the Z8 in modem mode?

home -> connections -> USB selector

Or, you don't have that same menu automatically pop up when you plug in the USB cable to your computer? It happens by default..

Patrix

[jagg11]

that's what i'm doing, when I open rsd it recognizes the phone as connected when i open the file through the selection window and hit start it says something to the effect of waiting for something to finish then like 3 seconds later it says finished and passed, and thats it.

[__susanu__]

don't use the laptop usb because doesn't work to flash the phone....

at least this happen to me whne i try to flash my v3i.......

use a Pc and also don't use the front usb port:)

runnig from 5 days the new mp and it's great... no restarts no freeze:)

good luck

[jagg11]

Thanks susanu that is most likely my problem. what if I only have a laptop?

[patrixl]

I must be lucky then, since I'm using RSD Lite 3.9 in Windows XP in Parallels (a virtual PC) on a Macbook, and it works fine for me.

Patrix

[jagg11]

Anyone else got any thoughts, If you can't use a laptop or the front usb ports. how long does it take to flash your phone and do you need to flash with just 2388 or do you have to use one of the other espoo updates as well?

[patrixl]

Each firmware package is independant and self-contained. IT's the full thing, that's what I mean.

Not sure why using a laptop should cause issues, except maybe some USB wiring inside the motherboard that wouldn't be as optimal as on a PC. try using different USB ports. Try to upgrade to the latest USB drivers from the Moto website (have to register a developers account I think, to use them).

Try to see if you can boot your phone into flash mode (with the blue screen saying "ESPOO flash" or whatever), using the key combinations discussed in this thread and others (* # while powering on, or 1 and 3 while powering on, I believe). See if that makes any diff.

I can't think of anything more, as I myself have never encountered ANY problem flashing, and as I said I'm using a Macbook (Mac laptop) + virtualized Windows, so that's probably even worse for compatibility than using a PC laptop lol. I also use RSD Lite 3.9..

Are you using XP or Vista? Might make a diff, who knows.

Patrix

[jagg11]

can't get it to go into flash mode by pressing 1 and 3 or * and # and all my drivers are more current than what you can get off the moto site. will try using a pc and see if that changes anything.

[__susanu__]

just turn off the phone and press * # and power off and should get in flash mode....

[nicow]

I'm really new at this... but I could flash my phone!!!!! :rockon: :thumbsup: I'm sorry... this is my first time... and I am really happy!!!

I still can't connect my phone to the internet though :(

Anyways thanks for all the explanations here!!! :cheers:

[patrixl]

Awesome nicow, glad you were able to flash it :)

There's a few places where you can find internet settings, did you try them out?

(I always check hellomoto.com -> support -> operator settings, first)

Patrix.

[dukemumen64]

:thumbsup::thumbsup:wat a hot thread every body, thanx all u all rock, had to give it up to u susanu, patrix u guys r awesome, just since the 2338 is the latest it has many languages but does it have Arabic(عربي) it will be writting like this i want to flash it but the language pack is the only issue, and of course there is no way to add one specific language!!
Follow up with susanu flashing using laptop should be fine i use a laptop and i flashed several times no problem there must be a problem with individual laptops mine is fine,
i would like to appolgize to every one if i sound stupid in other threads, i bought the phone recently it is bit costly and sometimes i feel like i want to smash it against the wall for some stupid glitches,
now if u just can tell me if arabic is supported in 2338 or 2361, my current is 2312 and it does support it remeber if u dont anderstand arabic it will look like this Arabic=عربي i will flash right away if u confirm that!

[patrixl]

2388 doesn't support Arabic. If I remember correctly, 2361 only supports English and Russian (it seemed like it was some kind of release containing debugging tools , for Russia only).

For future reference, list of supported languages in 2388:

Français
UK English
Deutsch
Español
Italiano
Русский (Russian)
Magyar
Ellhnika (Greek)


Patrix.

[dukemumen64]

thanx Patrix for your follow up, i kinda expected something like this, however i might have one thing to try i will see if this thing works otherwise i have to stick with faulted arabic supported 2312 "the phone name in BT link cannot be changed this is one defect i have found so far who knows wat else is there still testing" waiting for furthur update, u know this is one thing that pisses me off with Motorola they make good phones good design and every thing but at the end they just have to screw us by making software that present some stupid behavior like on our case the z8 and it numerous glitches or making a phone like z8 and z10 without including such basic features for a phone of their class like full html browser or wlan stuff like that, but still i stand by their products hoping they improve in the future!! thanx guys let u know wat happens with my attempts

[patrixl]

I know a few people have reported being unable to change the bluetooth name, however I never had such a problem myself. Well I had it once, but the next day everything was fine. That was long before any firmware updates came out.

Full html browser? I thought Opera Mobile fit the bill. Works fairly well for me, though usually I use Opera Mini...

The Z8 is a sad story, though. Delayed, buggy, badly-marketed, even people who aren't phone fans around where I live know it as "oh that phone that bends" and "it's real buggy isn't it?". And then Moto cutting off half the dev team, and now the Symbian unclear future... Great design indeed, but as often the case with great designs, things don't always work out.. I'm actually happily surprised we got that many updates (though non-officially) and that many bugs did get worked out (the 22xx series were horrible lol)

Patrix

[dukemumen64]

well u r lucky that some body even know this phone where i live no body only few who likes Motorola u cant find it any where u like, as for moto co. this is has been something like a trend for them, it is not enough to just fire the current team(LOL) they should hire one of u guys, at least then we will have our inside man dont u think so?(LOL)BTW i have successfully flashed the 2388 for testing it was ok, but still the same problem statds the BT name deosnt want to change, have u done any thing to make this go away or did it go by it self, in my attempt to figure out how to change languages i have tried to copy some CG from the Arabic 2312 into 2338, it was unsuccessful for i dont know which CG has the langeauge infromation tried CG3, CG32 some other ones but with no result it either dont work at all or work but with no changes in the language list. for now i have to stick with the arabic 2312 it is not bad at all actually speed in 2388 is not very very fast in comparesion to the 2312 besides the BT name problem still stands so there is no point of flashing 2338 its current state, have any body tried to the f/w with individual CG changes in attemp to make any change? do any body know which CG has the language information? BTW let me give u an outlook for the arabic 2338:
language list:
UK English
Francais
Duetsch
Espanol
Turkce
Russien
and Arabic
of course u get more than that on the ITAP menue
there is Mobiclip, only two themes (stock) gloss and pure, asphalt2 and ShoZu application, over all the f/w is fine no freezes no bugs for it has been running on my phone for 5 days now, the only problem for me is the BT name that wont change!!

hi all! i have found out wat is wrong with the BT name, u cant change the name of your phone unless the BT is turned on! quite simple isnt it, so now i can say that the f/w 2312 is perfect i havent found that much difference in speed with 2388, sure 2388 is fast but not that fast lol!! still did any body find out which CG has the language information!

[Scoca]

Hello, this is my first post here, and I wonder if you could help me with my Z8 please.

I've previously flashed the phone with the Ferrari fw and it worked without a problem.
However, I tried 2388 last night and now my phone seems to be semi-bricked.

It'll boot and show the 'M' logo, choose language, say 'hellomoto', set date and time. And that's it, it just re-boots at that point.

I've tried re-flashing several times with several fw's but rsd says FAIL.

Any help is appreciated.

[dukemumen64]

-it happened once with me i dont know excatly wat is the problem but when i disconnected the phone from the pc the boot went ok with no restarts, the phone after that worked prefectly i reflashed it with the same f/w and this time it went smoothly with no restarts cycles, just give it try i dont think it is a brick 'yet LOL'!!

[Scoca]

I'll certainly keep trying, I just wondered if I could do something different that might help.

Thanks.

[vsop]

Yesterday I have flashed 2388 fmw. I thought it cannot be so buggy like 2283 ... yes it is better, but slider open/close sound invokes almost always CRASH ! :furious: I think this is my last motorola. :puke2:

[patrixl]

Yesterday I have flashed 2388 fmw. I thought it cannot be so buggy like 2283 ... yes it is better, but slider open/close sound invokes almost always CRASH ! :furious: I think this is my last motorola. :puke2:

No such problem here.

Patrix.

[vsop]

I have got maybe different HW version. "Germany" version in 3G network / active roaming / no java or another app. Maybe overloaded OMAP ? Hmmmmm ... ;o(

[Scoca]

Well I've continued to try and flash my Z8, but no luck.
If I press the home key after booting I get a quick flash of 12 icons (all the same) and then it reboots.

For some reason the slide open/close sound has started working now.
Maybe it's flashing a little bit more code every time I try it?

I've tried using all the different usb ports on my laptop but if makes no difference.

Does anyone have any suggestions please?

[dukemumen64]

maybe try to flash using different computer maybe the problem is on your current computer as i didnt face such thing so far the f/w it self is totaly reliable and working 100%! good luck!

[1337KhZ]

Hi. Can anybody tell me what software with Poland [PL] language is now the newset ?

I have :

ESPO_U_46.04.64G_00000680
espo_uiq_31_200648_2312C5_Z_20071109
moto build : 2312C5_Z

do i should install : ESPOO_U_46.05.53G ?
if Yes... does any version of this softw. with PL language ?

sry for my not to correctly language but You know... ;)

btw. RIZR Z8

[jagg11]

I tried the same thing on my laptop if you look earlier in the post and I had no luck whatsoever flashing from a laptop. I have yet to flash my phone, but need to soon glitches are killing me. argh!!!

[Scoca]

Hi,
I've tried flashing again on a different pc but it still doesn't work, I get the message:
Phone not compatible with multi-interface super file.

My phone doesn't work at all. :-(

Does anyone have any suggestions please?

Sorry to be a pain, but I'm still stuck with an un-flashable phone.
Does anyone know the meaning of the following error message:

Phone not compatible with multi-interface super file

Thanks.

[buchan]

So what the best and fast firmware and complete language..which the hybrid firmware...please share your known the latest firmware..thx

[JBoogie3]

i would say the latest one which is 2388.. im using it and i dont have problems. and it has 8 diff languages to choose from

[Durbybard]

Hiya, new to forums, so hiya all and a top forum page this....

I have just purchased a Z8 off ebay and waiting for it to be delivered with the hope of flashing the firmware with the latest version and have my first Z8 almost or very little bug free, and i want to just make sure that i got my facts in order, so here goes....

1) The latest known and downloadable firmware is the 2388 version??
2) To flash the firmware in need RSD Lite latest version if possible and need to have latest usb drivers installed and when flashing the phone must be in modem mode to flash??
3) Flashing the firmware will debrand the phone of all network branded screen, etc?? (phone will be a O2 UK network phone but unlocked to all networks standard)
4) Once flashed the phone will be totally debranded with many bugs fixed??

Reason for the questions is that this will be my third Z8, the first was always crashing when using mp3's and general usage, the second was like wtf getting hot from the back of the phone, so much so that i couldn't carry it in my jeans pocket, i got rid of both of them and went back to my solid SE K810i (debranded).

Has anyone else had the same problems as above but with a firmware flash had said problems sorted and using a full fuctional Z8 cos i love the phone, to me it's a mans phone, with the looks and such.

anyway, thanks for reading and any comments you can pass on,

regard Durbybard (maybe a Z8 phone user soon)

[buchan]

What we change symbian uiq 3.1 to linux motomagic?!..bcause symbian have much problems..

What we change symbian uiq 3.1 to linux motomagic?!..bcause symbian have much problems..try flashing firmware to firmware z10..huehehe

What we change symbian uiq 3.1 to linux motomagic?!..bcause symbian have much problems..can we try flashing firmware to firmware z10 or z9..huehehe

O my good..im write this post with my z8 & opmin 2.06...o double write..errr

[daywalker04]

Hi. Can anybody tell me what software with Poland [PL] language is now the newset ?

I have :

ESPO_U_46.04.64G_00000680
espo_uiq_31_200648_2312C5_Z_20071109
moto build : 2312C5_Z

do i should install : ESPOO_U_46.05.53G ?
if Yes... does any version of this softw. with PL language ?

sry for my not to correctly language but You know... ;)

btw. RIZR Z8


MODEM4_U_40.09.65R
ESPOO_U_46.05.53G

SE8891AXXW1_Retail_Poland_250308_2288c8_bu_1.0_1.2 _2388c8_b_3132008954
http://www.4shared.com/file/58973130/8780d9b4/SE8891AXXW1_Retail_Poland_250308_2288c8_bu_10_12_2 388c8_b_3132008954sbf.html

[dukemumen64]

Still now word on new Arabic supported f/w besides 2312? no new 2388 with Arabic??? I wonder!!

[dc10sean]

MODEM4_U_40.09.65R
ESPOO_U_46.05.53G

SE8891AXXW1_Retail_Poland_250308_2288c8_bu_1.0_1.2 _2388c8_b_3132008954
http://www.4shared.com/file/58973130/8780d9b4/SE8891AXXW1_Retail_Poland_250308_2288c8_bu_10_12_2 388c8_b_3132008954sbf.html

Does this f/w also have the english language?

Thanks,

[patrixl]

Not sure if the one you quoted has it, but the 2388 firmware (same version) available from the first page in this thread does have English.

Patrix.

[dc10sean]

Thanks patrix.. Guess I'll have to figure out how to install it next.
Again, thank you

Question about flashing my Z8, I have RSD Lite 4.1, the f/w 2288. The question is, is this a LONG process to complete? Seems as tho I need only click on Start, once my phone is recognized and the f/w file is in place? Since I've never flashed a phone, I thought it best to ask. Sorry if it sound redundent. Didn't find anything stating the obvious in the guides section.

[patrixl]

Asking is good. Since any error with flashing can render your phone unusable, I encourage people to ask and make sure they understand what they'Re doing (rather than just know a bunch of steps to perform)

So yeah basically once you have the file for 2388 (not 2288 ;) ), and your phone is in modem mode and recognized by RSD Lite, you click start and let it go!

Make sure the battery is fully charged (though in my experience, the battery does charge while flashing, unlike other Moto phones) and make sure you don't interrupt the process once it actually starts, or you'll probably be in trouble. I was lucky, my first time I accidentally disconnected the phone from the cable, but it was fine - because it hadn't started flashing, was just downloading some new data. WHEW.

Just don't try to disconnect at any point lol. It is that easy, save in the few % of cases where it fails for some reason. Make sure you understand the process, the steps, and what'S going on before you start, then take a deep breath (i took quite a few) and go for it! It's not that painful :)

Patrix.

[dc10sean]

Thanks Patrix, yeah kinda had a case of fat fingers there meant 2388. Before I started just wanted to be sure as this is the only phone I have at the moment. IF for some reason I mess it up, it won't affect the SIM card, correct? I get the idea that the process takes some time, hence the admonition FULL charge on the battery. I agree whenever it's connected tho I think it's taking some charge.

[Hemorage]

i have trouble with my z8.
the phones can't go to bootlader, but it can booting just in to language selection and goes eror....




would you guys give me some advice?




sorry for my bad english...

[patrixl]

Thanks Patrix, yeah kinda had a case of fat fingers there meant 2388. Before I started just wanted to be sure as this is the only phone I have at the moment. IF for some reason I mess it up, it won't affect the SIM card, correct? I get the idea that the process takes some time, hence the admonition FULL charge on the battery. I agree whenever it's connected tho I think it's taking some charge.

Won't affect the SIM card or the memory card. You can take them out as a precaution too, it won't affect the flashing process.

I think it took about 20 minutes for me. It's 20 minutes of constant activity for the phone so it does use battery a bit (any phone, not just the Z8), so that's why everyone recommends having a full charge - not every phone charges from the USB while flashing, and so we recommend a fully charged battery to avoid the phone shutting off during the flashing process, and thus bricking it.

You should be fine though, take the cards out, charge it, modem mode, and flash it! :)

Patrix.

[dc10sean]

Thanks again,

I'll be flashing it tomorrow AM. Once I'm off stand by for the company, just in case.

I'll let you know how it goes..

Regards,

[dukemumen64]

I have an idea here for it is better if u have a individual battery which is dedicated just for the use of flashing this way u can gaurantee the battery is always full and in this way u can save your original battery for your daily use, because as i come to find out that flashing especially repeatedly takes toll on the battery life, or dont u guys agree! i and have a though guys y dont we dedicate a single thread for f/w that wont get updated until a new one is release meaning not much posting is allowed. at the end i have to ask how is your z8 working for u all, mine is gr8 and am just using 2312 with Arabic support, wish there is more update soon!!

and just one more though, if your phone got brick while flashing (not hoping that for anybody btw ;)) the least of your concerns will be the SIM card, sim cards r not that hard to get again but think of your 400 $ phone that just turned into a peice of brick;):)
good luck to all and be careful!

[buchan]

I flash my z8 +- 10times, and now i use f/w 2361, bcause this firmware complate for application, ex: qfile manager, eshell, motoefem,etc...

[dc10sean]

I would like to thank Patrix, and all who gave me info on flashing. The flash took less than 11 mins. While I understood I would have to reprogram alot things, such as the address/contacts and such. I'd forgotten just how long that takes, when you set those as you go along you don't realize just how much time was involved. Including redoing the WAP/MMS Internet stuff.

Fortunately the AT&T settings, aka ZTAR, from operator settings worked again as advertized elsewhere on this forum. No, it didn't relock, it stayed unlocked.

I do believe the phone moves ALOT faster now, certainly scrolling thru contacts, and other items. Seems to be a bit quicker switching from app to app.. I did reinstall swiss manager, thought it best.

Again, my thanks to the forum, Patrix, Duke and others in the forum.

Regards,

Oh Yeah, I'm sticking around here. So much info to be gathered and possibliy used too.

[dukemumen64]

Nice to hear your flash went ok Sean! u should have backed up your phone before flashing using PCsync that I forgot to mention only because i thought it was obvious, no problem though next time backup your phone data then flash it, 'I hope it soon because that will mean that a new update is availble LOL'
Good luck!!

[dc10sean]

Oddly enough I actually did make a backup using PCSync, but forgot that I had done until I was nearly done reinstalling everything. Figures. Too intent on what I was doing.. couldn't see the tree, for the forest was in my way.

One other feature, that I personally, like, the larger font size. The large on this version is MUCH better. Almost twice as large in most aspects.

Regards,

Day 2, no issues so I guess I got it right the first time. Even a blind squirrel finds an acorn once in while. 2388 did add couple of features, of particular interest will be the LARGER font. I believe it's about 30% larger than the previous f/w. Contrary to my previous post of twice. Guess my eyes were too tired then.

I do have a question tho, I noticed that when you set the time zone, as in my case, to CST the interest time zone becomes PST. Odd, if I switch it to CST as well as the local the local zone changes to PST. Weird. Any fix for this?

Regards,

[patrixl]

Maybe it can't have 2 zones being the same, so it sets them to different timezones. Ignore the zones of interest, or find some zones of interest and the problem magically disappears ;) ;)

Patrix.

[dukemumen64]

u will probably come across a lot of odd behaviors, like for instance the bluetooth name that u cant change unless the bt is powered on, i mean this is ridiculas but wat to do! over all the phone works u can say, there r things i still want to figure wat the hell they r used for like the Rights Manager do anyone knows wat is it for and how to use it? just want to know for how long we have to struggle with this phone till things r finally stable. plz someone tell me how is Z10 does it has the same issue or does moto redeemed it is self with it, can anybody tell me cause as soon as it comes available in my area i will get it just to make sure i dont have to go through the same sad story as z8.

[dc10sean]

Was more of info question than a problem, I wear a watch anyway. I don't generally look for my phone as a timepiece or actually check what time it is. However I do like your solution.

Regards

[dukemumen64]

u will probably come across a lot of odd behavior, like for instance the BlueTooth name that u cant change unless the BT is powered on, this is ridiculas but wat to do. overall u can say the phone works, there r still couple of things am trying to figure wat the hell they r use for like the Rights Manager, can anyone tell for wat and how is it used for? and someone tell me plz how is Z10 does it has the same sad story or did Moto finally redeemed it self with it, cause am thinking the moment it comes available in my area am getting it just want to make sure that the sad story wont repeat it self!!LOL

[dc10sean]

I don't know what all the differences are, but the camera is suppose to be 3.2 mp. Not so sure of any of the other gadgets it'll have. However, at least in my case, I won't be upgrading to it UNLESS AT&T issues it.

I would like to have the 3G to work I'd like to give the video a shot, see if it's something I want to spend money on. Wife has a Z9, it has that capability is the reason I want to give it shot. We live apart a good deal of the time. Work related, no other reason.

[patrixl]

Z10 has the 3.2 MP auto-focus camera, which would be good reason enough for me to upgrade if I could afford it. Z8 is good enough for now.

The Z10 won't have 3G in the US unless Moto refits it with the proper antennas, which I highly doubt lol. Either way, from my own experience, video-call is expensive and useless, and very unreliable. Best to do it over skype or ichat or AIM, FOR FREE. Why spend the insane costs for it on a 3G phone?

Best deal I found was O2 UK pay monthly, where video minutes used the same voice minutes, so no extra charge. And even then I didn't use it lol

Patrix.

[dc10sean]

Well, it was just a thought. To me it's like surfing the net, via the phone. AT&T does have an unlimited plan and I tried it. Didn't do what I wanted so cancelled it after a couple of weeks. Using the laptop makes a lot more sense.

I wonder just how hard it would be to change the antennas? So that 3G could be used in the US. Or could just the freq be adjusted another way? I realize this would be a hardware, not software change. I'm sure the FCC might have something to say about it tho. Not only that, but where would one get such antennas?

Just a thought

[dukemumen64]

still the Rights Manager, did someone figured that out!!!?

that about the slight upgrades with Z10 which i know about am asking about its stablity comparing to Z8?

[dc10sean]

I dont have a clue as to Rights Manager, must be something I don't particularly need I guess. There also doesn't seem to be a help file for it either.

Question, I recently added UniMoto 2.2.12 to software stable. It's mostly in Russian however. Any chance anyone knows of an english version of the same program?

Thanks,

[masat]

Hello Guys, I have the Z8 for some time now, and I haven't updated it yet, so I'll ask some 'stupid' questions:
my firmware is : ESPO_U_46.03.E2G_0000053D espoo_uiq_31_200648_2267C3_J_20070915
Moto_build: 2267C3..
Can I upload the 2388c8... firmware to it, is it safe?
The old firmware was slow and buged all over, can I expect some big improvements?
Oh, and can the flashing be done with moto drivers 3.5 and rsd lite 4.3?

Thanx in advance, and sorry for the 'trivial' questions

[buchan]

Please share masta-masta firmware support arabic language..i accept sms with arabic language & become boxs this words...

[patrixl]

Hello Guys, I have the Z8 for some time now, and I haven't updated it yet, so I'll ask some 'stupid' questions:
my firmware is : ESPO_U_46.03.E2G_0000053D espoo_uiq_31_200648_2267C3_J_20070915
Moto_build: 2267C3..
Can I upload the 2388c8... firmware to it, is it safe?
The old firmware was slow and buged all over, can I expect some big improvements?
Oh, and can the flashing be done with moto drivers 3.5 and rsd lite 4.3?

Thanx in advance, and sorry for the 'trivial' questions

2388 is completely safe and 100% recommended! Big improvements in stability and speed, but not 100% fixed lol. Unfortunately.

Dunno about drivers version 3.5, but RSD lite 3.9+ seems ot be working.

Patrix.

[dukemumen64]

buchan. look for this f/w 2312 there is one that supports Arabic it is pretty stable as well for i use this one wish i could flash 2388 but wat to do!!

[buchan]

can you share cg language support arabic in raidshare masta..............

[masat]

Thanx Patrix for the info, I did flash my phone and everything is fine... except a couple of things which I don't think that are flash related... they were buged before too... Does anyone else have a problem with the camera? Sometimes (pretty often) when I want to make piqs on the highest resolution it gives me an error message, I have to reboot the phone and after that it works normally for a while...any ideas???
Oh, and I wouldn't recomend to anyone a 4g SDHC mem card, it's extremly slow on the Z8.... :(
PS: I did find a 'problem' with this firmware : I can't install copilot 7 anymore on the phone.... it was running fine before...
And I don't like the new fonts ;)
Sorry for the long pos

[buchan]

What software for flash z8 except rds lite..i have firmware with .pcf not .sbf...

[patrixl]

masat: I've been experiencing this problem recently too, with the camera and large resolution pictures. I thought it was related to 2388, cuz I've never seen it before the last few weeks. I really don't know what's causing it and it's getting on my nerves..

Patrix.

[kmieci'u]

Hey
Don't U think that video quality is much worse on the new firmwares? When I bought my z8 I had 2267. Videos was awesome quality (for example 1 minute video had arround 30MB). Now I have 2388. 1 minute video has arround 3MB and quality is crap. Stupid...

[dc10sean]

Have you checked the setting for the camera, they might've changed with the new f/w update. Mine did. So did alot of other things too.

[mandla2]

I've downloaded tha ferrari MP but I can't find a program to back up my Z8 ......by the way flash&backup doesn't work please help

[kmieci'u]

Have you checked the setting for the camera, they might've changed with the new f/w update. Mine did. So did alot of other things too.

QVGA and high quality. Videos are 10x less so they must be much worse quality. I can share some videos to compare if U wanna see the difference

[patrixl]

I've downloaded tha ferrari MP but I can't find a program to back up my Z8 ......by the way flash&backup doesn't work please help

There is no software to make backup of the Z8 firmware, as of yet. You can backup some of your data wiht PC Sync (pics, vids, contacts, agenda, notes, can't remember what else), but not the firmware itself.

Patrix.

[bestfriend2525]

I finding FW have Unicode . Or I every one shared FW newest link MF because 4shared I can't download . Thanks

[SoulFury]

I have espoo_U_46.303.e2g and build 2267c3 on a Z8 spanish phone. What firmware would I need to update (and works ok)? Thanks a lot

...eeeeeeeer......many thanks for the awesome help?

[mdaniels7]

Hey there was just wondering if anyone has thought of including the light for when you are recording at night? Would be an awesome function to have. Just a thought, has ne1 done this, can do this is thought about doing this?

[garcy2]

Hi everybody, i have a phone with ESPOO_U_46.03.D6G_000005fe, My Moto build is 2283c3_I, want to flash it, but I read in some pages that the phone may die if the flash file doesn´t match with the original ESPOO, is it true?
Please help me, and excuse me for my english, isn´t my native language XD, I´m argentinian