Z6 / V8 track play order

[Freddiefront]

I have a ROKR Z6 and a RAZR2 V8 (yeah, lucky me) and I'd like to use one of them (preferably the Z6, for the SD slot) as my music phone. (I have the ROKR headset too.)

The problem is that both these phones are -- as far as I can see -- totally useless for playing music, because they play tracks in the wrong order -- alphabetical order as opposed to the correct order within the album.

Making a playlist for each album would fix this, but since I'm going to be loading 4 gig of music onto the phone every few days, doing that through the phone's UI would drive me insane(er). I could write a script to make a playlist on my PC, but the phones store the lists in some binary database (not m3u files).

Does anyone know a way to persuade these phones to play albums in the right order?

TIA...

:brit:

[biji]

Yup, I hate this as well.....
media player does not respect _track tag_
so it plays in alphabetical order :(

[Freddiefront]

Looks like this is a problem that the LJ phones have. Is there a way to load an alternate music player on these phones? It's a shame, 'cos hardware-wise, these are great phones.

[SuperJoker]

I'm not understanding this whole problem.

Can't you just go to the player > album > choose the one you'd like and start playing. If it's a album, the songs goes like 1.trackname, 2.trackname. That would automaticly arrange the music in alpabetical order & correct album order as opposed to the album. Right ?

[Freddiefront]

I'm not understanding this whole problem.

The problem is that alphabetical order of track title is just wrong!

Take Philip Glass's album Glassworks. The tracks are called -- in order --


Opening
Floe
Islands
Rubric
Facades
Closing

The MP3 files are named:


01. Opening.mp3
02. Floe.mp3
03. Islands.mp3
04. Rubric.mp3
05. Facades.mp3
06. Closing.mp3

Now, on my Q9, as far as I can see both Windows Media Player and CorePlayer get the track numbers from the ID3 tags in the files, and sort them that way. This is obviously the right thing to do. The RIZR Z8 doesn't do that (yes, I am blessed with many phones, but they aren't mine); it sorts by alphabetical order of file name. But because my desktop music player (Amarok) lets me configure how files are named on the device, I can put the track number in the filename as shown above, and it works. (This works for the RAZR2 V9 too.)

But the Z6 and V8 sort the tracks by alphabetical order of the track title from the ID3 tag. This is just plain wrong, and when I play the album, I get:


Closing
Facades
Floe
Islands
Opening
Rubric

This is totally stupid. OK If you listen to nothing but disco, but completely useless for any kind of serious music.

I could get around this my adding individual songs to my playlist in the right order, but with 4 gigs of music on the phone, and working through a 12-key keypad, that just ain't going to happen. I could go through my entire music collection (37 gigs or so) and rename all the tracks to include the track number, but there's no way I'm doing that just to work around a stupid bug in a phone.

So, since I'd really like to use either the ROKR or the RAZR2 V8 as my music player -- is there any way to fix this? Like a better music player I can upload?

[SuperJoker]

I see your point. Luckily, I just shuffle through all my songs when listening. :D

As of now, there's no external player yet. :(

[bigboicee]

I know that you're probably not up to this but you could get Windows Media Player to do it for you and it would label all of the songs as 01 song title.mp3 and that way it would play in order.

[biji]

maybe moto developer don't have ipod ^^
again...... we'll have to wait next firmware update

[Freddiefront]

and it would label all of the songs as 01 song title.mp3 and that way it would play in order.

You didn't read my previous post. The whole problem is that it sorts by track title, not file name. The files are already called 01 song title.mp3 and it doesn't work.

[bigboicee]

oh sorry I shouldn't read past 11PM

[Dmatthew]

What annoys me too is that lowercase artist or songs are at the bottom of the list... I see this frustrating in order to keep it neat and Synergy phones don't have this issue.

[wcjmason]

Its been awhile now, has anyone solved this? it seems like this phone wasnt fully tested before it was released.

[jmiranda]

The only way I found is to use a id3 tag editor to massively edit all the titles in an album and insert their track numbers.

[hytran]

The only way I found is to use a id3 tag editor to massively edit all the titles in an album and insert their track numbers.

"Massively" makes it sound difficult. Using ID3-TagIT3, I can retag my entire library in a few clicks.

[jmiranda]

What I'm doing now works fine for me.
I load in Windows Media (or any other that allows change ID3 tags to several files at once) all the songs in the memory card. Then, I use the advanced tag editor and I make sure all songs are selected. Then, I just select the title field and make it blank (hence, I empty all title fields).
It only takes a few seconds!
The phone's music player order the tracks by file name.
Of course, make sure you name your files something like artist - track - name.

[jhr]

I came across this program its a pretty powerful command line tool for id3 tags.

http://synthetic-soul.co.uk/tag/

I found it my search for a way to make m3u playlists easily... only to find out motorazr2 v8 doesnt know what a text file is.

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